My Conversation with “Mark” on Personhood and Apathy

Estimated reading time: 2 minutes.

This is the story of one of the dialogues I had during our outreach at the University of Michigan.


 

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I talked to a student I’ll call “Mark” at the University of Michigan who was pro-choice. He thought personhood began in the 2nd trimester, but he wasn’t sure why. I told him my concern was that I wanted an explanation of personhood that would make sense of the idea that all human adults should have an equal right to life. I’ve never seen someone understand where that logic leads so fast. He immediately said, “Oh, if we’re trying to give everyone an equal right to life than personhood would start here” and he pointed to the fertilization picture.

Be Open to Letting the Conversation Change Topics

Estimated reading time: 4 minutes.

Learning to defend your deeply held beliefs is really important, but it’s easy to get into the wrong mindset. Sometimes we get so focused on supporting the arguments for our view and defeating the arguments for the other view that we get…well, weird. We can get into the kind of focus where we are so oblivious to the person in front of us, we might as well be arguing with a robot.

Apologetics is not an end in itself, it’s a means to an end. The end for which we use apologetics is loving people by seeking their best interest.[Tweet that!] Sometimes that means our dutifully studied arguments become unnecessary.

One of the traps that comes along with the territory of studying apologetics is getting into a “flow-chart mindset.” If she says A, you say X, if she says B, you say Y, and so on.

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But the times I go on autopilot and I’m thinking too much about the argument, I lose track of the person, and often the point. This is why it’s important to respond to people, not merely their statements.

And this is why I’ve learned to let the conversation turn away from abortion.

Sometimes.

On Shifting the Burden of Proof

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In this episode Tim gives a fuller explanation of the argument Josh presented in the course about avoiding burden of proof shifts, and responds to likely counter-arguments. For example, doesn’t the dialogue style Tim is teaching allow the pro-choice person to have too much of an advantage, or allow them to take too much control of the conversation?

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When They Bite the Bullet

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Josh and Rachel respond to the common question of what to do when the person you’re talking to “bites a bullet,” by saying something like, “Maybe we can kill toddlers sometimes,” or “maybe squirrels are persons.” They also briefly discuss how to respond to utilitarians and moral relativists, who often bite bullets.

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