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This is a continuation of Josh’s conversation with Gary Freeman on crossing the racial divide in pro-life work. In this episode they contrast Gary’s position with those who say that you can’t be pro-life unless you agree with them on other social issues, why people in black churches are distrustful of Gary as soon as he calls himself “pro-life”, and how the church could have possibly made Black Lives Matter irrelevant.
If you haven’t listened to the first part of this conversation, do that first for this section to make sense in context.
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- 00:00 Contrasting what Gary’s saying with the pro-choice people who say that you can’t be pro-life unless you agree with them on the death penalty, animal cruelty, etc.
- 10:06 “Are you saying I have to become a Democrat in order to have pro-life views?”
- 15:39 Why people in black churches are distrustful of Gary as soon as he calls himself “pro-life”.
- 20:32 How the old way of responding to “you’re only pro-life if you do X” doesn’t work anymore.
- 24:54 What should white conservatives take from Black Lives Matter and what should they not?
- 30:18 How the church could have possibly made Black Lives Matter irrelevant.
- 35:14 What could both the white church and black church have done better after George Floyd was killed?