NARAL Promotes the Weirdest Pro-Choice Conspiracy Theory We’ve Ever Heard

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Jordan Warfel is our guest today because he discovered a conspiracy theory that NARAL promoted in a recent virtual conference. The theory is based on a book by Ilyse Hogue that argues the pro-life movement doesn’t actually care about babies, but is a front for evangelicals to bring back racial segregation. The discussion includes the horrible dialogue advice NARAL is giving, how both sides often communicate about opinion polls simplistically, and NARAL’s strategy to infiltrate the Black Lives Matter movement. You’re not going to want to miss this one.

Did We Make a Bad Pro-Life Argument?

Josh responds to three pro-choice people who pushed back against our recent video about the Responsibility Objection, one of the pro-life counter-arguments to Judith Jarvis Thomson’s famous violinist thought experiment. Is this pro-life argument a red herring? Did we strawman Thomson?

Related Links:

One of the Violinist Argument’s Biggest Flaws:
https://youtu.be/yNNmpLWJ2rU

The above is a clip from:
Podcast: Is Consent to Sex Consent to Pregnancy?
https://youtu.be/rci4My9_4BI

That podcast is taking this video deeper:
Is Consent to Sex Consent to Pregnancy?
https://youtu.be/ynPtsK9r0ks

That’s a clip from this longer video:
Abortion as “Self-Defense”
https://youtu.be/B2TakKSUawA

VIDEO: Blood Donation and Bodily Rights Arguments:
https://youtu.be/YmBrUcpOxDw

Here are some more of our resources on bodily autonomy arguments:

Fellow Pro-Lifers: Please Stop Sharing This Straw Man Meme:
http://bit.ly/2gBf9XR

Matt Walsh and Bodily Autonomy Arguments:
http://bit.ly/2kbzQep

It’s Her Body – Steve Wagner:
http://bit.ly/2DfsYJ4

Bodily Rights Arguments Necessitate Extremism:
http://bit.ly/2rv5ju8

Two Bad Pro-Life Responses to Bodily Rights Arguments:
http://bit.ly/2gBTlv8

The Immorality of Harming an Unaware Victim

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Content warning: This conversation necessarily includes some thought experiments that relate to sexual abuse, as well as the real-world example of Jeffrey Epstein. As usual, the discussion isn’t graphic, but we want our listeners who are survivors of sexual assault to know that and make an informed decision of whether they want to listen to this episode or not.

It’s Rachel’s last episode! She and Josh discuss how pro-choice people are often inclined to believe that adult women should be prioritized over fetal humans because adults have thoughts, dreams, and relationships. They offer some talking points for pro-lifers including some thought experiments that might help the conversation become more productive. Josh also tells a story about a related dialogue he had with a philosophy professor about prison reform, and how pro-life advocates tend to be primarily motivated by different things, especially when they first become passionate about this issue.