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		<dc:creator>Josh Brahm</dc:creator>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Estimated reading time: 3 minutes. There are some good pro-life responses to bodily rights arguments for abortion. These two rejoinders don’t belong on that list. I am convinced that most pro-abortion-choice advocates who go beyond basic rhetoric and slogans are partially grounding their position in some form of bodily autonomy arguments. If you’re somewhat new [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/two-bad-pro-life-responses-bodily-rights-arguments/">Two Bad Pro-Life Responses to Bodily Rights Arguments</a> appeared first on <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com">Equal Rights Institute Blog - Clear Pro-Life Thinking</a>.</p>
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					<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h6><em><strong>Estimated reading time</strong>: 3 minutes.</em></h6>
<p>There are some good pro-life responses to bodily rights arguments for abortion. These two rejoinders don’t belong on that list.</p>
<p><a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/JoshBrahm-BodilyRightsSpeech-300x218-1.jpg"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-1532" src="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/JoshBrahm-BodilyRightsSpeech-300x218-1.jpg" alt="JoshBrahm-BodilyRightsSpeech-300x218 (1)" width="279" height="203" srcset="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/JoshBrahm-BodilyRightsSpeech-300x218-1.jpg 300w, https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/JoshBrahm-BodilyRightsSpeech-300x218-1-82x60.jpg 82w" sizes="(max-width: 279px) 100vw, 279px" /></a>I am convinced that most pro-abortion-choice advocates who go beyond basic rhetoric and slogans are partially grounding their position in some form of bodily autonomy arguments. If you’re somewhat new to arguments for abortion rights that admit for sake of argument that the unborn is a fully valuable person, please <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/dfg/">listen to this speech</a> I gave at UCLA last month explaining them as well as offering some refutations.</p>
<p>Let me offer a brief summary of bodily rights arguments before getting to the faulty pro-life responses. Most pro-choice arguments either <strong>assume</strong> that the unborn are not valuable human beings, (“What about poverty?” “What if she will lose her scholarship?”) or they <strong>argue</strong> that the unborn are not valuable human beings. (“It’s not viable yet.” “It’s not sentient yet.” “It can’t feel pain yet.”) But there’s a third category of pro-choice arguments that <strong>admit</strong> (at least for the sake of argument) that the unborn are valuable human beings, yet the mother should still have the right to kill them because of her bodily autonomy. Her view is that if it’s in her body, she has the right to kill it, or at least take whatever measures necessary to refuse to have her body used as life support.</p>
<p>I’ve spoken on bodily rights arguments a lot, especially after helping write <a href="http://prolifepodcast.net/2013/04/de-facto-guardian/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the De Facto Guardian paper</a>. During Q&amp;A, someone will often ask about a potential pro-life response that I didn’t include in the speech.</p>
<p>Here’s one I’ve heard several times in that context, and I’ve seen pro-lifers use it in blog posts as well:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>“No woman has an abortion because she’s trying to protect her right to bodily autonomy.”</strong></em></p></blockquote>
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<p>According to <a href="http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Alan Guttmacher Institute’s 2005 survey</a> of more than 1,200 abortion patients, these were the most common reasons that women chose abortion:</p>
<p><a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/guttmacher.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1535" src="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/guttmacher.jpg" alt="guttmacher" width="564" height="645" srcset="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/guttmacher.jpg 564w, https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/guttmacher-262x300.jpg 262w" sizes="(max-width: 564px) 100vw, 564px" /></a></p>
<p>I agree that the women who took this survey didn’t report that their natural right to bodily integrity was the primary reason they chose abortion, but that’s irrelevant.</p>
<p>First of all, the Guttmacher survey didn&#8217;t have an option for &#8220;I want to maintain control over my body.&#8221;</p>
<p>Secondly, even if that&#8217;s not at all a part of a woman&#8217;s decision-making process, that doesn&#8217;t mean that bodily autonomy arguments fail to justify abortion being legal. If bodily rights arguments succeed, then it doesn&#8217;t really matter why a woman decides to have an abortion, because it&#8217;s justified. This is especially true if the &#8220;Sovereign Zone&#8221; argument is correct. In that case, taking Thalidomide to intentionally deform or hiring an abortionist to torture a baby to death would be justified, as Timothy Brahm shows in <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/autumn-in-the-sovereign-zone-why-its-my-body-i-can-do-what-i-want-wont-do/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this brilliant piece</a>.</p>
<p>In other words, there can be a difference between why abortion is morally justified and why a particular woman would decide to choose abortion.</p>
<p>Here’s another bad pro-life response. It is usually exclaimed by someone when they hear <a href="http://spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/Phil160,Fall02/thomson.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Judith Jarvis Thomson’s violinist story or “people-seeds” analogy</a> for the first time:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>“Well, that’s just weird!”</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p><img decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-1527" src="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/judith-216x300.jpg" alt="judith-216x300" width="216" height="300" />Thought experiments like Thomson’s violinist are meant to test our intuitions and help us determine things like whether or not a certain action is morally justifiable. Thought experiments about pregnancy will almost always be weird. Why? Because pregnancy is weird! There’s nothing else in our universe that’s like pregnancy, so you end up with these bizarre stories about people being hooked up to different body parts.</p>
<p>It’s not just pro-choice thought experiments that are weird either. There are pro-life thought experiments that are weirder than the violinist story, and they are very helpful. You don’t want to ban all bizarre thought experiments from your conversations because frankly, you should probably be using them sometimes.</p>
<p>If you want to hear some of the thought experiments I’m referring to that will help you respond persuasively to bodily rights arguments, <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/dfg/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">download this speech</a> I gave at UCLA and then post any questions you have in the comments below!</p>
<p><em>The post <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/two-bad-pro-life-responses-bodily-rights-arguments" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Two Bad Pro-Life Responses to Bodily Rights Arguments</a> originally appeared at <a href="http://JoshBrahm.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">JoshBrahm.com</a>. Subscribe to our email list with the form below and get a FREE gift. <strong><a href="https://EquippedCourse.com">Click here</a></strong> to learn more about our pro-life apologetics course, &#8220;Equipped for Life: A Fresh Approach to Conversations About Abortion.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em><strong>Question: Do you have any faulty pro-life responses to bodily rights arguments to add to the list? Post them below!</strong></em></p>
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