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		<title>Talking &#8220;Black Church&#8221;, &#8220;White Church&#8221;, and the Pro-Life Movement (with Gary Freeman)</title>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Download MP3: 42:17 This is a continuation of Josh&#8217;s conversation with Gary Freeman on crossing the racial divide in pro-life work. In this episode they contrast Gary&#8217;s position with those who say that you can&#8217;t be pro-life unless you agree with them on other social issues, why people in black churches are distrustful of Gary [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/talking-black-church-white-church-and-the-pro-life-movement-with-gary-freeman/">Talking &#8220;Black Church&#8221;, &#8220;White Church&#8221;, and the Pro-Life Movement (with Gary Freeman)</a> appeared first on <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com">Equal Rights Institute Blog - Clear Pro-Life Thinking</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/equippedforlife/Episode77.mp3">Download MP3</a>: 42:17</p>
<p>This is a continuation of Josh&#8217;s conversation with Gary Freeman on crossing the racial divide in pro-life work. In this episode they contrast Gary&#8217;s position with those who say that you can&#8217;t be pro-life unless you agree with them on other social issues, why people in black churches are distrustful of Gary as soon as he calls himself &#8220;pro-life&#8221;, and how the church could have possibly made Black Lives Matter irrelevant.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t listened to the first part of this conversation, do that first for this section to make sense in context.<span id="more-10278"></span></p>
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<h3>Chapters:</h3>
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<li>00:00 Contrasting what Gary&#8217;s saying with the pro-choice people who say that you can&#8217;t be pro-life unless you agree with them on the death penalty, animal cruelty, etc.</li>
<li>10:06 &#8220;Are you saying I have to become a Democrat in order to have pro-life views?&#8221;</li>
<li>15:39 Why people in black churches are distrustful of Gary as soon as he calls himself &#8220;pro-life&#8221;.</li>
<li>20:32 How the old way of responding to &#8220;you&#8217;re only pro-life if you do X&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work anymore.</li>
<li>24:54 What should white conservatives take from Black Lives Matter and what should they not?</li>
<li>30:18 How the church could have possibly made Black Lives Matter irrelevant.</li>
<li>35:14 What could both the white church and black church have done better after George Floyd was killed?</li>
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		</div></div></div><p>The post <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/talking-black-church-white-church-and-the-pro-life-movement-with-gary-freeman/">Talking &#8220;Black Church&#8221;, &#8220;White Church&#8221;, and the Pro-Life Movement (with Gary Freeman)</a> appeared first on <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com">Equal Rights Institute Blog - Clear Pro-Life Thinking</a>.</p>
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