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				<description><![CDATA[<p>It was four years ago that while presenting a talk called &#8220;Human Cloning: Truth vs. Science Fiction,&#8221; I predicted that scientists would successfully clone human beings within ten years. It appears that I was correct. NPR is reporting that a team of scientists at the Oregon Health &#38; Science University have worked out the necessary steps to clone [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/scientists-report-first-successful-human-cloning-attempt/">Scientists Report First Successful Human Cloning Attempt</a> appeared first on <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com">Equal Rights Institute Blog - Clear Pro-Life Thinking</a>.</p>
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					<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-4430" src="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/istock_000000180726_l3-300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" srcset="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/istock_000000180726_l3-300.jpg 300w, https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/istock_000000180726_l3-300-82x62.jpg 82w, https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/istock_000000180726_l3-300-131x98.jpg 131w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" />It was four years ago that while presenting a talk called &#8220;Human Cloning: Truth vs. Science Fiction,&#8221; I predicted that scientists would successfully clone human beings within ten years. It appears that I was correct. <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/05/15/183916891/scientists-clone-human-embryos-to-make-stem-cells" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NPR is reporting</a> that a team of scientists at the Oregon Health &amp; Science University have worked out the necessary steps to clone a living human embryo that is able to live long enough to produce embryonic stem cells. They have published their research in <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2013.05.006" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this weeks issue of <em>Cell</em></a>.</p>
<p><strong>I argued in that talk that my primary concern about human cloning is not that it&#8217;s &#8220;playing God,&#8221; but that we will dehumanize the new human being we&#8217;ve &#8220;created&#8221; in the lab.</strong> Notice the way the NPR article talks about the living, human embryos that were created, the same embryos that because they were able to live for several days, made the experiment a success:</p>
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<blockquote><p>The experiments involve creating and then destroying <strong>human</strong> embryos for research purposes, which some find morally repugnant. The scientists also used cloning techniques, which raise concerns that the research could lead to the cloning of <strong>people</strong>. (emphasis mine)</p></blockquote>
<p>The pro-life argument is that human beings are valuable, or &#8220;persons,&#8221; from the moment they begin life as a unique organism. This article only uses the word &#8220;person&#8221; to refer to human beings that are cloned and <em>then allowed to live until birth. </em>But this is begging the question. The entire ethical issue rests on whether or not human beings are valuable or &#8220;persons&#8221; from the beginning of their biological life, or if that value only comes at some point later in development. There&#8217;s not much to debate as far as ethics is concerned if the embryo being cloned has no intrinsic moral value.</p>
<p>You have to scroll down to the bottom of the article to read the worst assertion from the lead scientist:</p>
<blockquote><p>But Mitalipov dismisses those concerns. He says the embryos he created aren&#8217;t the equivalent of a human being because they weren&#8217;t fertilized naturally.</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t miss this. The sole reason given that the cloned human embryos aren&#8217;t valuable is because they weren&#8217;t fertilized <em>naturally.</em> Why in the world should I believe that matters?</p>
<p>What does his argument imply about the people that were conceived using in vitro fertilization? At precisely what point did they become &#8220;people?&#8221; They were never conceived naturally.</p>
<p>It appears to be a variation of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">&#8220;appeal to nature&#8221; fallacy</a>. Usually an appeal to nature is an argument that something is <em>good or right</em> when it&#8217;s natural. Here Mitalipov seems to be arguing that something is only <em>intrinsically valuable</em> if it was <em>conceived </em>naturally.</p>
<p>It is not sufficient for scientists to simply dismiss the arguments about the substances of persons from philosophers such as J.P. Moreland, Francis Beckwith, Patrick Lee, Robert P. George, and Hadley Arkes.</p>
<p>As if this fact changes <em>anything</em>, the next sentence in the article says,</p>
<blockquote><p>And his experiments with monkeys indicate that it&#8217;s unlikely that they could ever develop into a healthy baby.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume for a minute that he&#8217;s right. Even if he is, it&#8217;s morally irrelevant. Just because you are creating living human beings that aren&#8217;t healthy enough to live long, does not make them non-human. It simply makes them unhealthy or damaged.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the central question for us to consider before we can make a determination of the morality of cloning, embryonic stem cell research and abortion: <strong>are all human beings  intrinsically valuable because of the kind of thing they are, or are we merely instrumentally valuable based on what we can do functionally?</strong> I contend that the <a href="https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/arguing-from-equality-the-personhood-of-human-embryos/">best philosophical arguments</a> support the intrinsic value of all human beings, partially because if human beings are <em>not</em> intrinsically valuable, the concept of &#8220;equal human rights&#8221; is a myth. And if human beings are intrinsically valuable because of the kind of thing they are, that value is not lost simply because the human being came into existence through asexual means, or because the human being is killed in the first few weeks of life.</p>
<p><em><strong>Question: What are your concerns regarding human cloning? Leave a comment below!</strong></em></p>
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