What’s Really Up with the High African-American Abortion Rate? (with Gary Freeman)

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This is a continuation of Josh’s conversation with Gary Freeman on crossing the racial divide in pro-life work. In this episode they discuss the high abortion rate in the African-American community and why that is, and how we should think about the debate over Planned Parenthood being an allegedly racist organization.

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Related Links:

Alan Guttmacher Institute article that Josh referenced: “Abortion and Women of Color: The Bigger Picture”:


Audio recording of Josh’s “Planned Parenthood Unveiled” presentation from before ERI, including his explanation of why Planned Parenthood is not a racist organization:
https://bit.ly/3s2kjRb (Direct MP3 link)

Audio recording of a Q&A session from another recording of the “Planned Parenthood Unveiled” presentation with more discussion on the racism question:
https://bit.ly/3vTS9Jb (Direct MP3 link)

Live Action’s investigation on Planned Parenthood systematically covering up sexual abuse:

ERI’s coverage of the Center for Medical Progress videos:

Live Action’s investigation into “racially-motivated donations”:

Angela Franks’ book “Margaret Sanger’s Eugenic Legacy: The Control of Female Fertility”:
https://amzn.to/3FeSR8t (affiliate link)

Josh Chatraw’s book “Telling a Better Story: How to Talk About God in a Skeptical Age”:
https://amzn.to/3snHjun (affiliate link)


  • 00:00 The way pro-life people tend to talk about this statistical disparity
  • 4:46 What is going on with the African-American abortion rate?
  • 8:21 Is the Alan Guttmacher Institute right that the higher unintended pregnancy rate among African-Americans is part of the puzzle?
  • 11:20 Is Walter Hoye right when he says that abortion is less stigmatized in the African-American community?
  • 15:45 Why Gary doesn’t use the word “privilege” in the way it often is used
  • 16:42 Josh summarizes some of the reasons pro-lifers tend to call Planned Parenthood a “racist organization” and his take
  • 22:37 Gary’s response
  • 26:29 Acknowledging examples of real racism in the abortion industry
  • 27:24 How pro-life people could better help these people not choose abortion
  • 29:16 Considering Live Action’s racism investigation
  • 33:54 Considering Margaret Sanger
  • 44:58 Should pro-lifers talk about Margaret Sanger in order to get African-Americans to distrust Planned Parenthood?
  • 48:20 Why pro-lifers should be careful how they talk about Planned Parenthood with pro-choice people

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