Watch My Mock Debate with Soulation’s Jonalyn Fincher

A few weeks ago I posted the link to an interview that Soulation recorded with me about how pro-lifers can love pro-choice people better while discussing an emotional issue like abortion. We had decided during that interview to record a bonus mock debate, with Jonalyn playing the pro-choice position, but it was lost due to technical difficulties. We decided to record again after several Soulation readers requested to see the debate.

I’m glad we did. It was a good chance to show in real-time what my conversations on college campuses usually look like. They’re usually a little different than this, as Jonalyn played both a very inquisitive pro-choice person, (so I spent more time talking than I usual do on campus,) and Jonalyn also played a very philosophically savvy pro-choice person. I think most pro-choice people are very smart, but I don’t talk to a lot of people on campus that have spent a ton of time thinking and reading about this issue. Jonalyn managed to combine a bunch of the best arguments that I think exist, including a pro-choice biblical view that I’d never heard of. So you can watch me do my best to respond thoughtfully to every challenge Jonalyn came up with, while keeping the way the arguments interact with each other clear in my mind.

Jonalyn Fincher

As I said before, I highly recommend you follow Dale and Jonalyn’s work. It’s both important and unique.


Josh Brahm is the President of Equal Rights Institute, an organization that trains pro-life advocates to think clearly, reason honestly and argue persuasively.

Josh has worked in the pro-life movement since he was 18. A sought-after speaker, Josh has spoken for more than 23,000 people in six countries and in 22 of the 50 states.

Josh’s primary passion is helping pro-life people to be more persuasive when they communicate with pro-choice people. That means ditching faulty rhetoric and tactics and embracing arguments that hold up under philosophical scrutiny.

He has publicly debated leaders from Planned Parenthood, the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL), Georgians for Choice, and one of the leading abortion facilities in Atlanta.

Josh also wants to bring relational apologetics to the pro-life movement. “Some pro-choice people will not change their mind after one conversation on a college campus. Some of them will only change their mind after dozens of conversations with a person they trust in the context of friendship.”

Josh is formerly the host of a globally-heard podcast turned radio/TV show, Life Report. He now hosts the Equipped for Life Podcast. He’s also written dozens of articles for and the ERI blog.

He directed the first 40 Days for Life campaign in Fresno, resulting in up to 60 lives saved.

Josh has been happily married to his wife, Hannah, for 15 years. They have three sons, Noah, William, and Eli. They live in Charlotte, North Carolina.

David Bereit, the National Director of 40 Days for Life, sums up Josh’s expertise this way: “Josh Brahm is one of the brightest, most articulate, and innovative people in the pro-life movement. His cutting-edge work is helping people think more clearly, communicate more effectively, and — most importantly — be better ambassadors for Christ. I wholeheartedly endorse Josh’s work, and I encourage you to join me in following Josh and getting involved in his work today!”

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